Provides a build layer and prevents the finish from penetrating into the wood surface. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. Bona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. Bona Traffic HD is 10 times EASIER to find (but a snick harder to work with). They bring in wood from various locations. The Grandeur by Greyne wood throughout the home features German white oak in 5" plants with white cerusing underneath Bona DriFast Stain in a warm brown earth-tone protected by Bona’s High Durability Finish. I absolutely love the floors. It is for people who WANT yellow. Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. So again, you are down to 'raw look' OR 'super tough'. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. I like it a lot — no visible seam at the back of the countertop). The 2K products should be like the Loba products. The Traffic HD is not a stain either. Be CAREFUL of Classic. I used a T-bar applicator. Learn what Bona sealer to use on your wood floors, each sealer looks different & applies differently. But be VERY aware that you MUST HAVE all the windows open and that you should be able to remove yourself from the situation very quickly. Red oak floor with walnut boarders. Whaaaaat???? It may come in other thicknesses too. (I’ve read LOTS of old posts!). Bona’s very own BCC, Hardwood Floors Unlimited, installed and sanded the white oak flooring and Hardwood Floors Unlimited utilized Bona R850T adhesive to assist with the wide plank flooring. This is normal. What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? Oct 20, 2018 - This Pin was discovered by Kelsey Kline. Ruling out white and dark, we are left with trying to keep the wood as close to its natural pale state as possible... You recommend the Supra AT for durability, which makes a lot of sense. your own Pins on Pinterest Bona products have been used for over 90 years, giving our customers great results. - I got the curved 1/4” backsplash (if you can call that a backsplash). If you MUST give up ONE, which is it going to be? White streaks in floor. The Bona Certified Contractor program (BCCP) is by invitation only. Hi ... thanks in advance for your help... We are having white oak installed and finished on site. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochran’s showroom. They apply the product too thin and it sets up quicker than recommended. Below — Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. Live wire— we do not plan to stain — none of the finishes I discussed are stains — they are sealers. Design and inspire. Yes, we know that sounds like the beginning of a DIY nightmare, but Bona's DriFast oil-based sealer will play nice even under waterborne finishes as long as you follow their directions. The Natural is better, but still does not really look natural - in particular the grains are becoming too prominent. The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochran’s in Virginia). Also, how much lower quality is the Invisible compared with the Supra AT in floor years? Yes it will look like it has a finish on it...but you will have SUPER TOUGH. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. I gave my installer a sample plank of pre-finished white oak!. The craft of floor renovation and restoration requires products and tools that offer excellence. And even 'clean' would be considered "dirty" in a hospital setting. I had no idea that “white oak” looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. The tub area is ok -but I’m glad I didn’t get it in the kitchen. Brazilian Floors, LLC. It is a chemical additive they use to cause the sheen to drop. Also glad, I got the historical background of UDT vs Seal. A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochran’s in Virginia). There is no haze and the floors look very pretty, natural in color with a light sheen. Get more info about the Hardwood Floor Finishing Course. I want a natural look as well and I think I'll end up meeting with our floor guy sometime next week to go over samples. Find your nearest Australian Bona Certified Flooring Contractors. Thank you! I would have been so unhappy if I had picked the Natural stain after seeing it with one coat of matte finish and trusted the color would stay the same when I just changed from a matte to a satin top coat. We use Bona White when we mix for gray hardwood floors . It might be because those products are not too popular here (Dallas)? Bona NordicSeal has WHITE in it. I am very displeased with the results. I could also put hot pots on the stainless. Mar 21, 2017 - This Pin was discovered by Jennifer Greenhalgh. If satin would provide less haze, I think it would be my preference. @mpto Thanks so much, can't wait to see your final product!! U-shaped steps: wood for bottom half, carpet for upper section? Watco Danish Oil vs. Polyurethane for Wood Finishing. That just NATURALLY happens. Final coat, Bona Traffic Matte. And — don’t go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. AmberSeal (for amber look – to simulate look of oil based poly) You can see the color of these tinted sealers on the product label. Bona IntenseSeal Bona IntenseSeal is a specifically formulated waterborne sanding sealer that develops a vibrant look and deep, natural tone to individual wood species. The builder already ordered the wood. If you REALLY must have the low gloss then you will use 2 coats of Bona Traffic GLOSS (as shiny as it gets) and then your LAST COAT = 1 coat of MATTE. Athletic Flooring Sealer and Finish Specifications and Conformance List Introduction. I would use Bona natural seal or classic with traffic hd extra matte. We are building next year and making decisions now. Once the 2 parts are mixed to become "one part" the time line of 4 hours is set in stone. I have 4 areas. Bona Craft Oil 2K - Neutral Frost Blend. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. It's like using a tissue over your eyes. The finish will look different if you start with different white oak. Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. I’ll post more pictures when I get back to the house. BTW... after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! I used a T-bar applicator. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architect’s goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. Sherwin Williams Stains – I would avoid these.as they are lacquer based and use special varnishes (and not the typical durable ones you would use with an oil based stain. We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). If a bottle is $20 cheaper and you are doing the job for the same price and not getting … We have one big space — kitchen, then dining area with doors to exterior, then the family room. The MIXING of the product is what makes the time line very very tight. It’s just the woodworker’s much maligned stain and finish in one. No one does work for free. When I get to see them, I’ll post pics. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the durability it needs for everyday life. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). Be warned... the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). Flooring - Need help with refinishing oak flooring, Is Coretec really that great?--all our local dealers recommend it. @SJ McCarthy. The lightest one on the left is NordicSeal. This was such a great informative thread. This is the first time that I have used a Bona sealer. We will have 3500 sq’ of wood and certainly don‘t want problems. BTW, we used Corian — old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! I take super tough everytime....cause it SAVES YOU MONEY in the long run (no need to refresh after 10 years....no need to refinish after 20 year....a full sand/refinish can give you 25-30years). Those are STUNNING! Traffic HD is the best top coat I've used. P.P.S. It is engineered 7” - to be finished on site. did you have a contract or at least an email stating you wanted white oak? cloudy) comes when WHITE is added to a clear product. Watch our BCC hard at work laying the foundation for this beautiful home. (It looks a little pink on my IPad - it’s not in real life. P.S. Anyone know what kind of sink this is so I can search for it? Bona Craft Oil 2K - Garnet Ash Blend Wire Brushed. Nordic Seal is used on maple. Professionals, certified to use the complete Bona System®. Bona Natural Seal and Bona Traffic. For a clean-shiny person there is NOTHING that will make them happy in the matte or satin range. WOW!!! Nordic Seal has pigment in it so you need to be consistent when applying it. Bona Craft Oil 2K - Frost. No idea what run in his mind when he installed red oak (saving money, maybe?). A best fit can also include their 'interpretation' of your 'vision' (not theirs). It looks 'hazy' or cloudy'. Bona Prime Intense Prime Intense is a 100% polyurethane sealer designed to reduce 'tannin bleed' in timber species such as Blackbutt. A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. The cost was the main reason. All boarders were taped off and 2 coated with 2 coats of Bona Amber Seal. Builder put a sample of classicseal which we liked but I felt like it had a bit too much orange. You must choose. It is (IMHO) beautiful. :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 — I used exactly what bowmeister said —, 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. If so, is it better to use BonaSeal or can Bona Novia be used as the sealer under the Traffic? Rejuvenate floors overnight with light sand and recoat to restore luster and protect your floor's beauty with a Bona … @CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. It is the nature of the beast. From 10/4/16 – 11/22/16 eligible viewers could enter for a chance to win the home, valued at over $700,000. Bona’s very own Bona Certified Craftsman, Kapalua Floors from Troy, Michigan installed the pre-finished floors using Bona Adhesives. You don't. You don't sterilize wood. I also have some design software that may help with your need. Do you think that Loba 2K Supra AT will create a more "natural" look than the Bona Natural seal + Traffic Naturale (or HD)? Its warm, classic interiors are designed and finished by the award winning Thomas Juul-Hansen whom specified a custom Bona DriFast stain to complement the premium esthetic. The pillow is from our sofa. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. Over the years, there’s been a lot of things I’ve cut costs on, but I feel it doesn’t pay to skimp on a major feature of my new house that should last for a very long time. Also, I was thinking that for a more natural finish we should go with a matte finish. Many acid curing urethanes need to be used over a particular sealer. First, our installer did 8 samples for us — one coat of Bona sealer or stain and one coat of matte Traffic HD finish. We would get 3 gallons per coat. Can’t wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! Is the haze from the white that is in the sealer or the matte finish, or both? I settled on something I didn’t love and it turned out it was one of the most expensive ones. You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. your own Pins on Pinterest Nice, eh?! That's why you apply 2 coats of gloss and the FINAL coat is matter. I told him that without actually seeing Bona samples on my floor, I can not commit to go with him, as I can't be sure that I will like the look. We ordered 7” white oak. Bona still make the best sealer available. But the DURABILITY is going to last for 25 years! 2 coats of Bona Nordic Seal. Curtains will block the bookcase. He put 3 coats of the Bona satin Traffic HD on each so we could see what the actual finished product would look like. So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro....So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. It shows a deeper color (IMO) then the water based DST It makes the boards look like oil poly has been applied. The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). . Do you think the satin finish will be better or do you suggest something else? The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? Discover (and save!) Bona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. It is a work of art. Thanks so much for the advice about the Classic Seal ! How to Clean, Renew and Seal a Wood Deck in One Day - Duration: 6:51. We installed engineered extra large (10 foot long, 9" wide) planks in our living area. Bona NaturalSeal Waterborne Wood Floor Sealer. But I wonder if there is a middle way. Or maybe he just wanted to put pressure on me to close? I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. I don’t want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and don’t like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). Bona Quantum is an evolution of Bona R850 with added strength. In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? But, I would test these in a small area as I don’t know if they would look different on birch vs. oak. 1 area already has 2 1/4 natural red oak hardwood. If you do 3 coats of matte then you are ASKING for a hazy floor. Bona Microfiber Floor Mop (see on Amazon)Here are a few tips to keep in mind when using Bona Hardwood Floor Cleaner: Bona Hardwood Floor Cleaner does not need to be diluted with water, and there’s no need to wait for the cleaning solution to dissolve dirt. I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. Craft. We were pleasantly surprised to see that the Nordic looks even less yellow with the 3 coats of satin than with the single matte coating. Find out which finish is best for your project, water-based or oil-based polyurethane. MEANWHILE... earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. They may have some additives that improve sanding. The problem is that at this point my trust level is quite low. Bona NordicSeal is GreenGuard certified for indoor air quality. Don’t know if you can see much in this photo — the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didn’t even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples — I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. I will need confirmation of this from someone with Bona training. Please hire someone first before asking them to put down 'colour patches'. Product #: BNNRD Regular price: $78.00 AmberSeal may have the word “seal” in its name, but it is designed to be a base or primer coat only! I could only post one photo at a time. If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too — but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. If you choose that route, you will see precisely why it’s not a good choice for floors. (Side shower walls are white). He said that it was not possible - he can only show samples after professionally sanding the floor because the look will be 'very different' from that with a manual sanding. The wood is from Cochran’s Lumber in Berryville, VA. The matte finishes are KNOWN to look hazy. He said mitering the edges is a nightmare (if you don’t mitre, there is a white edge because the color doesn’t go all the way through - at least the marble design I chose). Bona Traffic HD matte = hazy looking. Uneven coverage can cause Bona ClassicSeal is an exceptionally clear waterborne sealer that highlights the natural color of the wood, minimizes grain raise and tannin bleed. Like on hardwoods you have to apply sealer as the first coat as this sealer will penetrate into the wood and gives more elasticity as the sealer will allow the wood to move without breaking the poly bonds. Originally, I had declared “never” to Quartz after reading people’s complaints about chipping and cracks. Color — we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. All Bona Trade Distributors stock Bona Finishes, Bona Premium Distributors sell and support the entire range of Bona products. It has an AMBERING agent added. I hope they hold up to daily use. Like Save SJ McCarthy last year Traffic HD with Bona Sealant. It is a protective coating. I can remove most with an angled razor blade with no marring. Sep 3, 2017 - Red Oak floor and stair treads with 2 coats of Bona Natural seal and 2 coats of Bona Naturale Get a unique floor with a natural wood oil finish with advanced application techniques like blending or accenting. Period. We always thought it was crystal clear, until we saw it next to the new NordicSeal, and now we know that there is a slight amber tint to it. Thanks for your advice. This product calls their sealer as primer only, so do not get confused. Check out these reviews and videos for Nordic Naturals vs Carlson fish oil and you be the judge which one is best. Revive the natural glow of your floors and remove ground-in dirt build-up safely and easily. It is for contractors who prefer to use Bona non-toxic finishes instead of solvent finishes and who demonstrate professionalism in their work practices. The bleaching added to the cost ... and another opportunity for something to go wrong. Or maybe I should move away from Bona? The larger beads leave a noticeable blemish. I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. 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